The Dreamtime

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Comment by Aimee Ringle on January 29, 2010 at 2:07pm

I'm gonna try that trance dance thing!

It's funny how the memory palace thing started. I'd heard about it from a friend and thought it was neat, but I couldn't get any rooms to stick until I actually had something I wanted to put in it - then a whole room in vivid color presented itself. And one thing at a time as turned it into a pretty beautiful home :)

Comment by carrie bahm on January 29, 2010 at 7:06am

I remember reading a Jewish dream book once where I wrote down on a piece of paper to the dream maker what I wanted some guidance with. I put the paper under my pillow and I did get an answer. I have also worked with a dream by doing trance dance where I re-entered the dream. That was very revealing to.
That is really neat how you have an imagining room I will have to try that!

Comment by Aimee Ringle on January 27, 2010 at 11:26am

Dream temples, huh? That sounds interesting! I've been cultivating a "memory palace" for about 6 months now - using my imagination to keep things in different "rooms" inside my head - and I've been imagining a room to sleep in - to go to every night as I'm falling asleep - maybe there's a few cool things I could have waiting for me there that would help me do more active dream work.
I've asked for guidance or to work on or travel to a certain part of my life, but the dreams that follow never seem to connect much with the things I asked about.
Let me know if you find any books on dream temples!

Comment by carrie bahm on January 27, 2010 at 7:39am

Wow Aimee! Is that ever cool the relationships you have with your dreams! Sounds really incredible how your dreams are so vivid and direct! Are you able to ask a question or for guidance around a certain area in your life and receive it as well?
I live by my dreams for the most part and with significant events or interactions I usually have a leading dream right before that plays out, either metaphorically or literally and guides me through.
I am interested in dream temples if anyone knows of any books written on this subject? I would be very grateful for the insight.

Comment by Aimee Ringle on January 23, 2010 at 2:59am

I've been keeping a dream journal for about 7 years now. If my house burned down, it'd be the first material possession I'd save - filed as it is with sleepily scrawled visions, vivid colors, aching sensation and movie-worthy storylines and "camera" angles, that little book is priceless to me.
For a while now I've been fascinated by a recurring phenomenon and I don't even know what to call it. I'll have very clear images in my dreams from my life that haven't happened yet - I'll hear specific sounds, words, threads of conversation. Nothing spectacular - just focusing my eyes on specific objects, reading certain words, or lifting my arms or walking through a space. I'll dream these things, sometimes I'll write them down - and then they'll happen - sometimes up to a year later. When they do, I'll always pause and notice. I'm aware that I dreamed this.
Ever have that thing where you scratch a certain part of your foot and you can feel a scratch on the skin of your arm or the back of your neck? Like the nerves between one place and the other are connected? This dream phenomenon feels similar.

Comment by Georgia Cammann on August 20, 2009 at 4:30pm

Especially as the collective conciousness has begun to shift in the last few years, I too have seen a much greater interest in shamanic practices. I think it comes from several venues. We as humans, are feeling somthing is missing on all levels, esp. spiritually and emotionally. What the 80s and 90s brought into our culture here has not been feeding us at the deep level we need and want. The material things and jumps in technology (which have certainly had their rewards for many) haven't filled the "soul aches" that have either been there all along or are coming up for so many. Neither is organized religion on many fronts. I want to be careful here not to put down anyone who embraces it or anything else if they feel it serves them in a healthy, positive way. O.R. has also helped a great many in communities where a collective, heartfelt effort was put forward to help those in need. I have many friends and aquaintances who steadfastly practice various religions, are great people and feel very good about it. It's never black and white. I'm speaking from my own pt.of view and that of so many others I know and have worked with. Many of those who tried to feed their spirits in that manner were met w/ guilt, a great deal of judgement, fear, abuse (often of an extreme nature), etc., all of which were certainly not conducive to growing in Love, Compassion and Spirit.
We all have a great deal of information and knowlege at our disposal but we have to learn how to access it and every single one of us can. It takes the desire, being open to new ways of perceiving, the time to learn and implement it and integrity.
The basic Shamanic principles of all indigenous cultures have common threads regardless of their individual, tribal beliefs and practices; a deep respect and reverence for the Earth and all it's sentient beings (animals and plants) and an awareness and strong belief in other realities, dimensions, spirit worlds, etc. (they're all the same thing) are intregal parts of the thread.
Shamanism is a spiritual practice and belief system that has no written text. It's handed down from generation to generation and requires a lifetime of commitment, sacrifice and practice. You're correct...there are numerous venues out there touting shamanic practices, with more coming up all the time. Many of the native cultures highly resent this and to me, it feels very sacreligous as well if it entails "mimicing" their sacred ceremonies, etc. The basic "knowledge" is there however, availible and congruent to the laws of physics and spirituality for all people. It's the place their knowledge collectively came from in the first place....something much bigger than ourselves. The principles can be taught and implemented regardless of the methods. As our earth has become more ravaged, at a very deep level, many, many of us are becoming increasingly alarmed and I truly believe our anxiety and fear over this comes not only from our linear knowledge about the pollution, deforestation, ect. but also very much from the intrinsic knowledge we carry at a cellular level through many lifetimes. Our "guts" know we can't survive w/o a healthy planet and we're being called to be part of the solution. There are those of us (including me), who have a particularly strong pull in the shamanic direction. It resonates at a particularly deep level. I find that giving people the knowlege and information and then letting them decide on an individual basis works best. I'm a true believer there are many ways to accomplish the same goals and it needs to be what resonates with each person.
If anyone reading this is possibly interested in do a workshop which would give you the basic information to begin to understand the various natural, healing modalities and spiritual practices we're all seeing, hearing and reading about more and more frequently, I'll leave my e-mail and website addresses at the end of this and I will look at putting one together soon. My intention is based on a concious effort to empower others in their own personal journeys of healing and growth and the reverberating rewards that come from that. EVERY single thing is connected and affects everything else in some way.
I've also sought the help of many types of healers myself, including shaman with some amazing results and experiences which I would be glad to relate if it gives anyone more clarity.
Georgia Cammann
425-443-0842
www.creativepossibilites.net

Comment by Tembo Chinook on August 20, 2009 at 3:12pm

Georgia,

Good points - at a small forum on shamanic work last night, it was quickly apparent that there is both a genuine curiousity about a methodology which may have some great lineage behind it and also an accurate caution about trying to learn enough to learn how to "decide how to decide" if one was interested in experiencing more. For myself, as only one member of the panel with limited time, I realized just how much has begun to be stored up in my little rock skull . . . I'd be interested in seeing some of your course info and I bet others would too. TC

Comment by Georgia Cammann on August 19, 2009 at 8:23pm

An added comment:
I'm aware of the confusion out there regarding the many types of healing modalities and philosophies and who could be surprised?! As the conciousness in thinking "outside the box" is pushed forward, more and more "choices" also come come to the front as well. Those that are legitimate share a common thread but may have very different ways of reaching the end result. Many may have validity but different venues resonate w/ different people for different reasons.... a perfect example of why there's no ONE WAY to accomplish somthing as many dogmas would have us believe. There are of coarse, just by virtue of human nature, those less-than-integritous healers as well. I actually developed a course to give people w/ these type of questions who were confused, some basic information that might be helpful in gaining some clarity.
We don't know what we don't know until we know it and there's SO much out there none of us ever have the opportunity to scratch the surface of.

Comment by Georgia Cammann on August 19, 2009 at 8:08pm

Tempo,
I couldn't agree more...I think it really boils down to "Perception" in general, regardless of what the topic is. Five people could be looking at and experiencing the same situation at the same time in the same place and ALL could very likely come away w/ a different view based on, not only their own experintial life lessons, but also I have learned, very much from a DNA standpoint. No wonder we all have different views of the same thing! Knowledge is good, in all it's forms and maybe...just maybe... this dynamic is also a wonderful lesson put before each of us many times throughout our lives in reserving our judgement and just letting go, trusting and opening ourselves up to the process which will inevitably manifest itself according to something much bigger than we are anyway. Despite my human (trying to have a spiritual experience here... ;-O), I work very hard to stay out of human judgment and allow the experience to blossom w/o those type of limits and I can say for myself, I have never once been disappointed. ALL worlds..... human, spiritual, dimensional...however we think of them, are so very connected and so full of information just ripe for our own growth and also for the quality of our collective exisitence . ALL of our answers are availible if we know how to "see" them. One day... when I grow up, I want to be a Spirit hanging out here, viewing things from the other, more aware side of things, having a human experience....yet another example of perception I suppose! :-)

Comment by Tembo Chinook on August 17, 2009 at 10:39pm

Georgia, a ong overdue thanks for your contribution . . . I often think that there is a style of the soul which relates to healing in its own language . . . and that is good, to have this proliferation of different medicines. Issues associated with it that i see are (1) the proliferation of modalities may make it confusing in a culture which does not really have a vocabulary of healing for individuals who are not in the "in group" to know who to choose or to even know how to choose a modality which will be good for them. (2) From my own bias, I think the paradigm of the shamanic methodologies, if they can be called that, have the essential feature of recognizing what i am calling the three way conversation between the human community, the natural or "living" world, and the spirit world. Some, if not many modalities do NOT recognize this interactive system as the "given" background within which the healing occurs. I think this three way conversation is an essential ingredient of an indigenousity which must in some way be rediscovered or reinvented in order to survive our current challenges. TC

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